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    training autogeno.quando viene utilizzato questo termine impropriament

    Sento spesso parlare di training autogeno e leggo spesso anche su internet di gente che lo fa per rilassarsi.Mi domando una cosa.Quando molti parlano di training autogeno fanno solo esercizi di rilassamento e usano questo termine impropriamente oppure no?
    Ho trovato qualcosa su internet ma sinceramente vorrei opinioni da esperti e informazioni da fonti sicure
    Da quello che ho letto è nata con uno scopo terapeutico,per diminuire ansie,far fronte a stati negativi in assenza del terapeuta e so che ci sono corsi appositi dove ti insegnano esercizi particolari,tecniche di respirazione ecc
    Esistono quindi diversi tipi di training autogeno?
    Chi semplicemente sta ad esempio sdraiato e fa esercizi di visualizzazione,immagina paesaggi con magari in sottofondo musiche,suoni della natura fa semplici esercizi di rilassamento oppure si potrebbero già definire training autogeno?Tecniche varie come sentire il proprio corpo o stare seduti e lasciare che la mente vaghi
    Ho letto che c'è chi considera addirittura la ripetizione di frasi e parole in continuazione come training autogeno.Questo ad esempio rientra nella meditazione trascendentale.A questo punto mi chiedo quale sarebbe di preciso la differenza tra training autogeno e meditazione?Meditazione più che una tecnica sarebbe uno stato mentale che si può raggiungere con qualunque tecnica (anche perchè cdi sarebbero pareri diversi pure in quest'ambito).Mi chiedo però se in termini tecnici, psicologi e altri esperti non diano definizioni precise al riguardo.Differenze tra una cosa e l'altra e quando è consigliato più il training oppure la meditazione.

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    Riferimento: training autogeno.quando viene utilizzato questo termine

    Ciao Diletta, per training autogeno penso si faccia riferimento agli esercizi di Schutz, la meditazione penso invece sia un concetto più ampio che comprende molte più tecniche. La meditazione è spesso associata anche ad argomenti religiosi, sebbene ci siano una marea di ricerche sulla meditazione che sono puramente tecniche.
    Il TA è stato chiamato anche "meditazione occidentale" da alcuni, proprio perché si assomigliano abbastanza
    Non so se in termini fisiologici i risultati che si ottengono dopo TA o dopo meditazione siano poi così differenti tra loro.
    Comunque trovi una collezione di risultati sulla meditazione in questo link

    http://www.igorvitale.org/2012/06/03...-a-costo-zero/

    Igor

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    Effetti fisiologici del training autogeno:

    Stress reducing regulative effects of integrated mental training with self-hypnosis on the secretion of dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEA-S) and cortisol in plasma: a pilot study.
    By: Johansson, Benny; Uneståhl, Lars-Eric. Contemporary Hypnosis (John Wiley & Sons, Inc.). Sep2006, Vol. 23 Issue 3, p101-110. 10p. 4 Graphs. Abstract: Early observations have shown that preventive educational efforts towards experience of stress entail advantages in terms of improved well-being, health and performance. We examined the influence in healthy subjects of self-hypnosis and mental training taught in group sessions, with individual training in between according to a standard protocol, and integrated in daily life and work for six months, on the alteration in plasma concentration of the stress hormone cortisol and the ‘anti ageing’ hormone dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEA-S). DHEA-S and cortisol were analysed in twelve healthy men and women, with six individuals randomly divided equally between experimental and control groups. In the experimental group DHEA-S was significantly increased by 16% (P < 0.05), whereas plasma DHEA-S in controls followed an expected age-related decline. Cortisol was reduced by 12.3% (P < 0.05) in the experimental group, but remained unchanged in the control group. The ratio between plasma concentrations of DHEA-S and cortisol that reflects stress-related alteration in the adrenal secretion between androgens and glucocorticoids, increased significantly by 27.8% (P < 0.05) in the experimental group with a reduction of 8,2% in controls. The increase in plasma DHEA-S under experimental conditions was equivalent to a range normally found in individuals 5 to 10 years younger. Copyright © 2006 British Society of Experimental & Clinical Hypnosis. Published by John Wiley & Sons, Ltd. [ABSTRACT FROM AUTHOR] (AN: 22106990)
    Argomenti: AUTOGENIC training; MENTAL training; DEHYDROEPIANDROSTERONE; HYDROCORTISONE; HORMONES; ANDROGENS; GLUCOCORTICOIDS

    INDIVIDUAL DIFFERENCES IN PERSONALITY,IMMUNOLOGY AND MOOD IN PATIENTS UNDERGOING SELF-HYPNOSIS TRAINING FOR THE SUCCESSFUL TREATMENT OF A CHRONIC VIRAL ILLNESS,HSV-2.
    By: Gruzelier, John; Champion, Andy; Fox, Paul; Rollin, Matthew; McCormack, Sheena; Catalan, Pepe; Barton, Simon; Henderson, Don. Contemporary Hypnosis (John Wiley & Sons, Inc.). Dec2002, Vol. 19 Issue 4, p149. 18p. Abstract: Studies the individual differences in personality, immunology and mood in patients undergoing self-hypnosis training for the successful treatment of a chronic viral illness. Immune parameters before and after the training; Increase in natural killer cell cytotoxicity of herpes infected cells. (AN: 9057354)
    Argomenti: AUTOGENIC training -- Therapeutic use; HERPES simplex virus -- Treatment

    SELF-HYPNOSIS AND EXAM STRESS: COMPARING IMMUNE AND RELAXATION-RELATED IMAGERY FOR INFLUENCES ON IMMUNITY, HEALTH AND MOOD.
    By: Gruzelier, John; Levy, Jonathan; Williams, John; Henderson, Don. Contemporary Hypnosis (John Wiley & Sons, Inc.). Jun2001, Vol. 18 Issue 2, p73. 14p. Abstract: The effects of self-hypnosis training on immune function, mood and health at exam time in medical schools were examined, comparing instructions of enhanced immune function with relaxation, whereas instructions of increased energy, alterness, concentration and happiness were common to both procedures. Training consisted of three weekly group sessions, with unrestricted home practice with an audiocassette. Immune assays involved CD3, CD4, CD8, CD19 lymphocytes, CD56 natural killer (NK) cells and blood cortisol. Students receiving immune-related imagery reported fewer viral illnesses, such as colds and influenza, during the exam period. Immunerelated imagery was also more successful than relaxation imagery in buffering decline in total lymphocytes and subsets. Independent of instructions, hypnosis buffered the decline in CD8 cytotoxic T-cells observed in control subjects, an effect associated with hypnotic susceptibility (Harvard group scale). Evidence of a buffering effect on NK cells could not be replicated, which may have been confounded by generalized stressors. As found previously, dissociations between negative mood and raised cortisol followed hypnosis training. These findings along with a contemporaneous one with patients with herpes — preliminary due to the small scale of the study — demonstrate for the first time that there are benefits for reported illness as a result of a psychological intervention shown to strengthen the immune system and improve well-being. The benefits of self-hypnosis encourage investment in large-scale illness prevention studies and controlled clinical applications. [ABSTRACT FROM AUTHOR] (AN: 6143979)
    Argomenti: AUTOGENIC training; STRESS (Psychology); IMMUNE system; RELAXATION

    Self-Regulation of Salivary Immunoglobulin A by Children.
    By: Olness, Karen; Culbert, Timothy; Uden, Donald. Pediatrics. Jan89, Vol. 83 Issue 1, p66. 6p. Abstract: Abstract. In a prospective randomized controlled study, the possibility that children could regulate their own salivary immunoglobulins was investigated using cyberphysiologic techniques. Fifty-seven children were randomly assigned to one of three groups. Group A subjects learned self-hypnosis with permission to increase immune substances in saliva as they chose; group B subjects learned self-hypnosis with specific suggestions for control of saliva immunoglobulins; group C subjects were given no instructions but received equal attention time. At the first visit, saliva samples (baseline) were collected, and each child looked at a videotape concerning the immune system and was tested with the Stanford Children's Hypnotic Susceptibility Scale. At the second visit, an initial saliva sample was collected prior to 30 minutes of self-hypnosis practice or conversation. At the conclusion of the experiment, a third saliva sample was obtained. Salivary IgA and IgG levels for all groups were stable from the first to the second sampling. Children in group B demonstrated a significant increase in IgA (P .01) during the experimental period. There were no significant changes in IgG. Stanford Children's Hypnotic Susceptibility Scale scores were stable across groups and did not relate to immunoglobulin changes. [ABSTRACT FROM AUTHOR] (AN: 4747666)
    Argomenti: IMMUNOGLOBULIN A; IMMUNE response -- Regulation; AUTOGENIC training for children; CHILDREN -- Physiology

    Self-Hypnosis, Biofeedback, and Voluntary Peripheral Temperature Control in Children.
    By: Dikel, William; Olness, Karen. Pediatrics. Sep80, Vol. 66 Issue 3, p335. 6p. Abstract: Abstract. Forty-eight children, aged 5 to 15 years, were tested for their ability to raise and lower their index finger temperature with self-hypnosis and/or biofeedback. Group A (self-hypnosis only) and group B (self. hypnosis with biofeedback) were children who had previous successful experience with self-hypnosis (eg, for the treatment of enuresis, pain, asthma, or obesity). Group C (biofeedback only) were children with no experience with hypnosis. All three groups showed significant success with warming and cooling. The range of warming for the three groups was 0 to 3.7 F, and for cooling, 0 to 7.3 F or 0 to 8.8 F for attempts exceeding the ten-minute trial period. No significant difference in ability to warm or cool was noted when the children were compared by group, age, or sex. Some of the children in group A who had little or no success with hypnosis only were very successful with the addition of biofeedback monitoring, suggesting a synergistic effect between biofeedback and hypnosis. A significant temperature rise was also noted in groups A and B accompanying a neutral hypnotic induction relaxation-imagery exercise in which no mention of temperature change was made. This rise varied from 0 to 6 F, averaging 1.7 F. Possible therapeutic implications include the treatment of migraine headaches, Raynaud's syndrome, sickle cell anemia, and the use of temperature monitoring as a diagnostic and therapeutic adjunct to clinical hypnosis. [ABSTRACT FROM AUTHOR] (AN: 4754666)
    Argomenti: BIOLOGICAL control systems; AUTOGENIC training; AUTONOMIC nervous system -- Diseases; BIOFEEDBACK training; CHILDREN -- Diseases

    E questi per gli effetti della meditazione

    Respiratory Sinus Arrhythmia Feedback in a Stressed Population Exposed to a Brief Stressor Demonstrated by Quantitative EEG and sLORETA.
    By: Sherlin, Leslie; Muench, Fred; Wyckoff, Sarah. Applied Psychophysiology & Biofeedback. Sep2010, Vol. 35 Issue 3, p219-228. 10p. 3 Color Photographs, 2 Charts. Abstract: Previous investigations of electroencephalograms during relaxation have identified increases in slow wave band power, correlations between increased levels of alpha activity with lower levels of anxiety, and autonomic changes characterized by otherwise documented decreased sympathetic activity. This study was carried out to determine the overall changes in quantitative electroencephalographic activity and the current source as a result of an acute session of respiratory sinus arrhythmia (RSA) biofeedback in a population of subjects experiencing stress. This study’s findings provide physiological evidence of RSA feedback effect and suggest that RSA training may decrease arousal by promoting an increase of alpha band frequencies and decrease in beta frequencies overall and in areas critical to the regulation of stress. It was of interest that novices could achieve these objective alterations in EEG activity after minimal training and intervention periods considering that the previous literature on EEG and meditative states involve experienced meditators or participants who had been given extensive training. Additionally, these effects were present immediately following the training suggesting that the intervention may have effects beyond the actual practice. [ABSTRACT FROM AUTHOR] DOI: 10.1007/s10484-010-9132-z. (AN: 52169686)
    Argomenti: ELECTROENCEPHALOGRAPHY; ANXIETY; MEDITATION; ARRHYTHMIA; BIOLOGICAL control systems

    Heart Rate Variability During Sleep Following the Practice of Cyclic Meditation and Supine Rest.
    By: Patra, Sanjib; Telles, Shirley. Applied Psychophysiology & Biofeedback. Jun2010, Vol. 35 Issue 2, p135-140. 6p. 1 Chart. Abstract: Day time activities are known to influence the sleep on the following night. Cyclic meditation (CM) has recurring cycles. Previously, the low frequency (LF) power and the ratio between low frequency and high frequency (LF/HF ratio) of the heart rate variability (HRV) decreased during and after CM but not after a comparable period of supine rest (SR). In the present study, on thirty male volunteers, CM was practiced twice in the day and after this the HRV was recorded (1) while awake and (2) during 6 h of sleep (based on EEG, EMG and EGG recordings). This was similarly recorded for the night’s sleep following the day time practice of SR. Participants were randomly assigned to the two sessions and all of them practiced both CM and SR on different days. During the night following day time CM practice there were the following changes; a decrease in heart rate, LF power (n.u.), LF/HF ratio, and an increase in the number of pairs of Normal to Normal RR intervals differing by more than 50 ms divided by total number of all NN intervals (pNN50) ( P < 0.05, in all cases, comparing sleep following CM compared with sleep following SR). No change was seen on the night following SR. Hence yoga practice during the day appears to shift sympatho-vagal balance in favor of parasympathetic dominance during sleep on the following night. [ABSTRACT FROM AUTHOR] DOI: 10.1007/s10484-009-9114-1. (AN: 50808643)
    Argomenti: HEART beat; SLEEP; PSYCHOPHYSIOLOGY; MEDITATION; ELECTROENCEPHALOGRAPHY
    Database: Psychology and Behavioral Sciences Collection

    Interoceptive awareness in experienced meditators.
    By: Khalsa, Sahib S.; Rudrauf, David; Damasio, Antonio R.; Davidson, Richard J.; Lutz, Antoine; Tranel, Daniel. Psychophysiology. Jul2008, Vol. 45 Issue 4, p671-677. 7p. 4 Charts, 3 Graphs. Abstract: Attention to internal body sensations is practiced in most meditation traditions. Many traditions state that this practice results in increased awareness of internal body sensations, but scientific studies evaluating this claim are lacking. We predicted that experienced meditators would display performance superior to that of nonmeditators on heartbeat detection, a standard noninvasive measure of resting interoceptive awareness. We compared two groups of meditators (Tibetan Buddhist and Kundalini) to an age- and body mass index-matched group of nonmeditators. Contrary to our prediction, we found no evidence that meditators were superior to nonmeditators in the heartbeat detection task, across several sessions and respiratory modulation conditions. Compared to nonmeditators, however, meditators consistently rated their interoceptive performance as superior and the difficulty of the task as easier. These results provide evidence against the notion that practicing attention to internal body sensations, a core feature of meditation, enhances the ability to sense the heartbeat at rest. [ABSTRACT FROM AUTHOR] DOI: 10.1111/j.1469-8986.2008.00666.x. (AN: 32575090)
    Argomenti: MEDITATION; INTEROCEPTION; AWARENESS; TIBETAN Buddhism; KUNDALINI; ALTERED states of consciousness; METACOGNITION; MIND & body
    Database: Psychology and Behavioral Sciences Collection

    Cardiorespiratory and Metabolic Changes during Yoga Sessions: The Effects of Respiratory Exercises and Meditation Practices.
    By: Danucalov, Marcello Árias Dias; Simões, Roberto Serafim; Kozasa, Elisa Harumi; Leite, José Roberto. Applied Psychophysiology & Biofeedback. Jun2008, Vol. 33 Issue 2, p77-81. 5p. 1 Chart. Abstract: The novelty of this study was to investigate the changes in cardiorespiratory and metabolic intensity brought about by the practice of pranayamas (breathing exercises of yoga) and meditation during the same hatha-yoga session. The technique applied was the one advocated by the hatha-yoga system. Nine yoga instructors—five females and four males, mean age of 44 ± 11, 6, were subjected to analysis of the gases expired during three distinct periods of 30 min: rest, respiratory exercises and meditative practice. A metabolic open circuit computerized system was applied (VO2000, MedGraphics—USA). The oxygen uptake (VO2) and the carbon dioxide output (VCO2) were statistically different ( P ≤ 0.05) during meditation and pranayama practices when compared with rest. The heart rate also suffered relevant reductions when results at rest were compared with those during meditation. A smaller proportion of lipids was metabolized during meditation practice compared with rest. The results suggest that the meditation used in this study reduces the metabolic rate whereas the specific pranayama technique in this study increases it when compared with the rest state. [ABSTRACT FROM AUTHOR] DOI: 10.1007/s10484-008-9053-2. (AN: 32672816)
    Argomenti: CARDIOPULMONARY system; METABOLISM; PRANAYAMA; BREATHING exercises; HATHA yoga

    Electroencephalographic (EEG) Measurements of Mindfulness-based Triarchic Body-pathway Relaxation Technique: A Pilot Study.
    By: Chan, Agnes S.; Han, Yvonne M. Y.; Mei-chun Cheung. Applied Psychophysiology & Biofeedback. Mar2008, Vol. 33 Issue 1, p39-47. 9p. 1 Color Photograph, 1 Diagram, 1 Chart, 2 Graphs. Abstract: The “Triarchic body-pathway relaxation technique” (TBRT) is a form of ancient Chinese mindfulness-based meditation professed to give rise to positive emotions and a specific state of consciousness in which deep relaxation and internalized attention coexist. The purpose of this study was to examine the EEG pattern generated during the practice of this mindfulness exercise, and compare it to music listening which has been shown to induce positive emotions. Nineteen college students (aged 19–22 years) participated in the study. Each participant listened to both the TBRT and music audiotapes while EEG was recorded. The order of presentation was counterbalanced to avoid order effect. Two EEG indicators were used: (1) alpha asymmetry index, an indicator for left-sided anterior activation, as measure of positive emotions, and (2) frontal midline theta activity, as a measure for internalized attention. Increased left-sided activation, a pattern associated with positive emotions, was found during both TBRT exercise and music conditions. However, only TBRT exercise was shown to exhibit greater frontal midline theta power, a pattern associated with internalized attention. These results provided evidence to support that the TBRT gives rise to positive emotional experience, accompanied by focused internalized attention. [ABSTRACT FROM AUTHOR] DOI: 10.1007/s10484-008-9050-5. (AN: 31130055)
    Argomenti: ELECTROENCEPHALOGRAPHY; RELAXATION; EMOTIONS (Psychology); MIND & body; ATTENTION

    E qualche paragone tra i due

    Treatment of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder in Postwar Kosovo High School Students Using Mind–Body Skills Groups: A Pilot Study.
    By: Gordon, James S.; Staples, Julie K.; Blyta, Afrim; Bytyqi, Murat. Journal of Traumatic Stress. Apr2004, Vol. 17 Issue 2, p143-147. 5p. 1 Chart. Abstract: This preliminary study examined whether the practice of mind–body techniques decreases symptoms of posttraumatic stress in adolescents. Posttraumatic Stress Reaction Index questionnaires were collected from 139 high school students in Kosovo who participated in a 6-week program that included meditation, biofeedback, drawings, autogenic training, guided imagery, genograms, movement, and breathing techniques. Three separate programs were held approximately 2 months apart. There was no control group. Posttraumatic stress scores significantly decreased after participation in the programs. These scores remained decreased in the 2 groups that participated in the follow-up study when compared to pretest measures. These data indicate that mind–body skills groups were effective in reducing posttraumatic stress symptoms in war-traumatized high school students. [ABSTRACT FROM AUTHOR] (AN: 12729128)
    Argomenti: POST-traumatic stress disorder; TEENAGERS -- Health; HIGH school students; MIND & body therapies; AUTOGENIC training; MEDITATION

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    Sei un database vivente di studi clinici e articoli scientifici...

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    Sei un database vivente di studi clinici e articoli scientifici...
    No... so solo dove trovarli.

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    grazie
    molte di queste informazioni le avevo trovate difatti.
    è un argomento interessante.Vedrò se troverò qualcos'altro,qualche libro eventualmente

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    grazie
    molte di queste informazioni le avevo trovate difatti.
    è un argomento interessante.Vedrò se troverò qualcos'altro,qualche libro eventualmente
    The effect of autogenic training combined with organ formula and motion therapy on spontaneus and provoked headaches

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